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A Tiffany & Co. sterling silver cross pendant necklace. This sterling silver cross pendant hangs from a choker length cable chain.

Designer: Tiffany & Co.
Metal Type: Sterling Silver
Necklace Length: 16.00"
Necklace Closure Type: Spring Ring
Hallmarks: T&Co 925 Peretti
Total Weight: 0.085 ozt

  • This item has been evaluated and verified by an independent Graduate Gemologist. (CINLW).
  • All diamond and gemstone grading is done under GIA standards as the mounting permits, where gemstones are present. All weights and measurements are estimated and approximate. Industry standard and accepted treatments for gemstones are assumed unless otherwise noted.

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Good

- minor markings throughout.

Dimensions

- necklace length 16.00".
- the total weight, inclusive of all materials, is 0.085 ozt.

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17CIN491-505

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Started by Unknown Soldier , Dec 04 2012 03:53 AM

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#1 Unknown Soldier

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:53 AM

Interesting.

http://www.emedals.c...ny-cross-w01062

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#2 Unknown Soldier

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:54 AM

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#3 Unknown Soldier

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:55 AM

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#4 salfred

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:11 AM

That didn't take long to sell. I suppose you don't see one of those for sale everyday.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:24 AM

Purdey! I think that maybe a "Studly" replacment as it has the wrong date and the cheap looing barrel clasp as disscused in another thread. Still a great find, and nice clear photos! WooHoo...
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:14 AM

Definitely not an original, wrong date, "Awarded To" phrase is off center. A lot of money for a "replacement".
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:42 AM

So I'm guessing the medal of honor is legal to sell now, since the supreme court overturned the stolen valor act.
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#8 emccomas

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:59 AM

So I'm guessing the medal of honor is legal to sell now, since the supreme court overturned the stolen valor act.


No. The court overturned PART of the stolen valor act. The part dealing with falsely claiming to have been awarded a decoration that you were not awarded, etc. Buying and selling MOH still illegal for US citizens. This dealer is in Canada.
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#9 ZeketheAwesome

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:41 AM

No. The court overturned PART of the stolen valor act. The part dealing with falsely claiming to have been awarded a decoration that you were not awarded, etc. Buying and selling MOH still illegal for US citizens. This dealer is in Canada.


Thanks for the clarification.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:41 PM

Purdey! I think that maybe a "Studly" replacment as it has the wrong date and the cheap looing barrel clasp as disscused in another thread. Still a great find, and nice clear photos! WooHoo...
:love:


Sorry what is a "Studly" replacment?

Thanks.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:35 AM

Sorry what is a "Studly" replacment?

Thanks.


Found this description on another website, and it seemed "to the point".

Studley's refer to the medals sold by George Studley to veterans. He was a retired Navy man whose business was selling insignia and medals to veteran's starting in the 30's. Studley had a catalog as late as 1939. The Studley catalogs didn't give prices for full-sized decorations but on request he would quote everything up to the MOH. However, the guy was in the business a long time and knew the suppliers, so it's likely that a lot of what he sold was from the same people supplying the government and indistinguishable from issue pieces.

What I understand, he did business into the 60's. Initially he bought unnumbered planchets from companies who made the medals for the US government. Real studley medals are very nice pieces with good detail, reasonable quality and were bought and worn by real veterans. The planchet is usually thicker than government issue. The term Studley has been applied to all manner of reproductions, generally the thick crude repros with the coppery finish you find at shows. Some of these have been remounted with wrap brooches and attempts have been made to stamp numbers on the rim.

George Studley obtained most of his medals from J.K. Davison Co. and apparently from other (official) government medal supplies with permission from the Feds. He also had struck the Medal of Honor as he could not obtain these and he had campaign bars for the WWI Victory Medal that were never actually made. Some consider him a part of American Medallic history, as no other individual was sanctioned to sell federal medals. Unfortunatley the word "studley" has been used by many to mean any reproduction or fake US decoration
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:41 AM

Found this description on another website, and it seemed "to the point".

Studley's refer to the medals sold by George Studley to veterans. He was a retired Navy man whose business was selling insignia and medals to veteran's starting in the 30's. Studley had a catalog as late as 1939. The Studley catalogs didn't give prices for full-sized decorations but on request he would quote everything up to the MOH. However, the guy was in the business a long time and knew the suppliers, so it's likely that a lot of what he sold was from the same people supplying the government and indistinguishable from issue pieces.

What I understand, he did business into the 60's. Initially he bought unnumbered planchets from companies who made the medals for the US government. Real studley medals are very nice pieces with good detail, reasonable quality and were bought and worn by real veterans. The planchet is usually thicker than government issue. The term Studley has been applied to all manner of reproductions, generally the thick crude repros with the coppery finish you find at shows. Some of these have been remounted with wrap brooches and attempts have been made to stamp numbers on the rim.

George Studley obtained most of his medals from J.K. Davison Co. and apparently from other (official) government medal supplies with permission from the Feds. He also had struck the Medal of Honor as he could not obtain these and he had campaign bars for the WWI Victory Medal that were never actually made. Some consider him a part of American Medallic history, as no other individual was sanctioned to sell federal medals. Unfortunatley the word "studley" has been used by many to mean any reproduction or fake US decoration


Many thanks for the explanation.

Just another question. Would the incorrect date 1917-1919 be done purposely to ensure that these were diffentiated from genuine issued Tiffany Crosses?

Edited by salfred, 05 December 2012 - 01:43 AM.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:36 AM

Many thanks for the explanation.

Just another question. Would the incorrect date 1917-1919 be done purposely to ensure that these were diffentiated from genuine issued Tiffany Crosses?


I have no idea why this would have an incorrect date. Studley medals are usually pretty good quality. I don't think this is a Studley medal. This medal, besides the wrong date, has a few other issues.
There are a couple of Tiffany Cross replicas from a company in Australia with wrong dates as well. One is dated 1917-1919, the other is dated 1917-1920. Neither replica is
a good quality medal.

Here are some pics of the Australian replicas

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:39 AM

Close up

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:42 AM

Here is a link to some other threads that discuss the Tiffany Cross variations (real and replica) in depth:

http://www.usmilitar...oss-recipients/

http://www.usmilitar...fo-and-request/

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

Thanks for the info. In terms of an example of a Tiffany Cross the first one from emedals (is in my opinion) a first class replica, whereas the Australian ones are just aweful.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:32 AM

Here is a link to some other threads that discuss the Tiffany Cross variations (real and replica) in depth:

http://www.usmilitar...oss-recipients/

http://www.usmilitar...fo-and-request/


Good links and some useful information. It definitely appears this one is a reproduction or a Studley job.
Hope whoever was quick on the trigger finds out soon.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

Over the years I have been fortunate to personally inspect several "Studley" Tiffany Crosses and I can say that ALL of them had the correct date of 1917-1918 -- NOT 1919, and they were virtually identical to the official TC's issues.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

Looks like he has another one for sale.... $1925

http://www.emedals.c...ny-cross-w01206

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

Appears to be a different medal than the one pictured at the start of this thread; same style (1917-1919) but a different actual medal

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

Is it just me or is that just an ugly reproduction? And for almost $2 grand...I'll keep my money, thanks.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

Hummmmmmm........... just you !?

Did I win Dave? :D

So far his (eMedals) are the best fakes I have seen. I would be happy with it as an example but nothing else, not that I would of course. ;) Those other plated ones make me cringe! But that money for a fake is simply wrong, of course he never states "Original" in the add but rather says "Specimen" and "Type". I always wonder when I see that kind of wording. Of course for an original I would think the price would be much much higher anyway. So is this a subconscious admission it is fake? Hummmmmmm..........

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 03:34 PM

Looks like the very same cross that started this thread is once again for sale at e-medals ... I guess the original buyer didnt like what he saw ...

 

http://www.emedals.c...-w2284?vmcchk=1


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 03:32 AM

Looks like the very same cross that started this thread is once again for sale at e-medals ... I guess the original buyer didnt like what he saw ...

 

http://www.emedals.c...-w2284?vmcchk=1

 

Didn't last long at $1950.  I wonder if he has a "supply" of these medals.  They are so obviously fakes, but still look pretty good (at least compared to some of the other fake MOHs out there)
 


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 03:33 AM

And that reminds me, I need to get back on my Tiffany Cross research project.

 

I am spending too much time (and money) buying medals, and not enough time researching them.


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